1. Rubbing and peeling off from nuts/seeds/beans on Shabbos

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1. Rubbing and peeling shells/stalks/pods off from nuts/seeds/beans on Shabbos:

Note: In these laws there are various discrepancies between the rulings of the Shulchan Aruch and that of the Siddur. Although both rulings have been brought below, it is incumbent upon the reader to read the summary to know how we practically rule, taking into account all the rulings of the Siddur, which is the final say in these matters.

 

  • The rulings of Admur in the Shulchan Aruch:[1]

Rubbing:

First opinion-It is allowed to do so with an irregularity:[2] One may not extract seeds from stalks in the same method used during the week, which is to rub the stalks within the palms of one’s hands in order so the seeds fall out from it. Rather he must rub them with a slight[3] irregularity using the tips of his fingers.

The reason this is allowed: Now, although by doing so he separates the seeds from the stalks with his hands, and one who separates [seed from a stalk] with his hands is [liable for transgressing] an offshoot of the threshing prohibition which is done using a vessel, as was explained in chapter 305 [Halacha 28], nevertheless [here] since he is separating it irregularly in order to eat (right away) it is permitted.[4]

It was not decreed against doing so due to that one may come to separate [the seeds] as regularly done, being that even one who separates them in the usual method is also only considered to be doing so irregularly being that he does not take the food and actually remove it with his hands [from the stalks] but rather just rubs the stalk and causes the grains to fall and [this method] is usually only done with a vessel that is designated for threshing. However nevertheless it is Rabbinically forbidden [to separate by rubbing it with ones hands], although when this too is done with an irregularity they made no decree against doing so.

Other Opinions:[5] [However] there are opinions[6] which are stringent to not sort at all [the seeds out from] stalks of grains or from pods of legumes even using the tips of one’s fingers.

Rubbing off the green shell of nuts:[7] Therefore [according to this latter opinion] it is forbidden to rub out the Luz nuts[8] or large nuts from within their upper green shell which covers over their thick and hard shell, even with the tips of one’s fingers.[9]

The Final Ruling:[10] It is proper[11] to be stringent [to not rub off the shell] being that one can anyways break it open and eat it without needing to separate [the shell][12]. [However according to the Siddur rubbing is forbidden under all circumstances]. [See Q&A]

 

  • Peeling:

To peel off the thin peel of nuts, grains and legumes:[13] It is permitted to break [the shell] and then peel off the thin peel that is on the fruit which is under the hard shell which is broken, as the Mifarek/detaching prohibition is only applicable by the top [greenish] shell. [See Q&A 7-8]

Similarly, it is permitted to peel [the chaffs off] grains and legumes which have been removed from their stalks and pods from before Shabbos, although one must be careful to only peel as much as he needs to eat right away and not for what he will need to eat later on as will be explained in chapter 321 [Halacha 19[14]]        

[Regarding if one may shake off the thin peels from amongst the grains in a case that they have already been peeled off and are now sitting together with the grains- see Chapter 3.]

Peeling off the pods from legumes:[15] However (according to all opinions) it is forbidden to peel the pods on Shabbos and remove the legumes from within them (with ones hands as doing so is [Halachically considered] actually Mifarek/detaching [which is forbidden]).

Moist pods:[16] However [the populace of] the world is accustomed to allow this to be done and there are opinions which seek merit [to justify] their actions [saying] that since the stalks are still moist and thus the pods themselves are still edible, it is thus like one is simply separating food from food which does not contain the detaching prohibition as explained in chapter 305 [Halacha 28].

Inedible-dry-pods:[17] However those legumes which their pods are not edible there contains no permission at all to remove the legumes from within them on Shabbos unless the legumes are not at all attached to their pods, having been detached from them before Shabbos and it is rather simply sitting [loosely] within [the pod]. In such a case it is permitted to remove [as many legumes from the pod] as he wishes to eat right away, however he may not do so to eat later on due to the separating prohibition.

  • The ruling of Admur in the Siddur:

Not to eat legumes that are still in their pods on Shabbos:

Inedible pods: [One] needs to be very careful not to eat on Shabbos beans, whether raw or cooked, which are still in their [inedible[18]] pods. [See Q&A]

The reason for this is: because being that their pods are not edible, removing them contains the Mifarek/detaching prohibition according to all opinions, which is an offshoot of the threshing prohibition which one is liable for a sin offering and stoning Heaven Forbid.

The above applies even if the beans have detached from their pods: Now, although the beans have already [become] detached [inside] from their pod through the cooking process and are thus no longer attached to it [nevertheless the above Mifarek prohibition still applies].[19]

Sesame seeds: The same restriction applies also towards sesame seeds.

Legumes with edible pods: A meticulous person should be stringent upon himself also with regards to the species of legumes called (Arbes[20]) when they are still attached to their pods, even though their pods are also edible, as [separating the seeds from the pods] is not clearly allowed.

 Avoid eating shelled nuts/seeds on Shabbos:

It is proper[21] to avoid eating almonds and nuts on Shabbos unless they have been removed from their shells from before Shabbos. [See Q&A]

The reason for this is: because, although even when the nut/fruit remains totally or partially in its shell [on Shabbos] it is permitted to remove its shell with ones hands and does not contain [a] separating bad from good [prohibition], nevertheless after the fruit has been removed if there remains a piece of the shell amongst the pieces of fruit/nut or amongst whole nuts, then if one removes [that shell] from there he is liable for a sin offering [if done unintentionally] and stoning [if done intentionally] for [transgressing the prohibition of] separating waste from food. Rather one must separate the fruit/nut from amongst the shells and may not touch the shells at all.

Furthermore [in additional reason to avoid nuts] even if the shells are bunched up alone without having any mixture of fruit [of the nuts] amongst them, [nevertheless] there [still remains] a great prohibition in moving them due to that they are Muktzah, as is known. And [since] it is difficult to beware from all the above [prohibitions, therefore it should be avoided.]     

 

Summary

Pods of legumes and stalks of grains:

Rubbing off the pods and stalks of grains and legumes:[22] If the pods are inedible then it is completely forbidden to rub them off [due to the threshing prohibition] even if they were cooked, and thus the legumes have already separated within the pod. If the pods are edible, then a meticulous person should avoid eating them even in such a case.

 

Peeling off the pods of legumes:

Pods that are inedible: Is forbidden due to Mifarek according to all[23], even if the beans were separated from the pods from before Shabbos.[24]

Pods that are edible: The custom is to be lenient to peel off the pod[25], although a meticulous person should avoid eating them even in such a case.[26] [Nevertheless, if the beans have detached from their pods then seemingly according to all one may be lenient.]

Peeling off the thin peel of nuts, legumes and grains:[27] Does not contain any Mifarek prohibition, although contains the separating restrictions and thus may only be peeled directly prior to the meal.

 

Nuts with shells:

Avoid eating nuts/seeds on Shabbos:[28] It is proper to avoid eating them unless they have been shelled before Shabbos and are thus no longer mixed in with their shells. In the event that one eats nuts with shells on Shabbos the following are the laws involved in removing its shell:

Rubbing off the upper green shell:[29] It is forbidden to be done even with the tips of one’s fingers due to the threshing prohibition and rather one must crack it open.

Peeling off the upper green shell: [30] Is forbidden due to the Mifarek prohibition.

Peeling off the thin peel of nuts, legumes, and grains:[31] Does not contain any Mifarek prohibition, although contains all the separating restrictions, and thus may only be peeled directly prior to the meal.

 

Q&A

Does the Mifarek prohibition also apply to pods which are grown with intent to be marketed together with their pods?

If the pods are grown with intent to be marketed together with their pods then some Poskim[32] rule the Mifarek prohibition does not apply, although if the pod is inedible then all the Borer prohibitions would still apply. See next question. Other Poskim[33] however are stringent even in such a case. [It is implied from Admur that he learns like the former opinion that permits it.[34]]

 

May one peel off the pods of beans, peas, green beans?[35]

Legumes which are grown with intent to be marketed without their pods: If the pods are inedible then they may not be removed, due to the Mifarek prohibition, even if the beans have already become detached from within the pods.[36] If the pods are edible then from the letter of the law the pods may be removed without restriction and do not contain either the Mifarek or Borer prohibitions. However, as Admur concludes in the Siddur a meticulous person is to be stringent even in such a case.

Pods which are grown with intent to be marketed while still within their pods: Such as green beans and Okra and the like, then if the pod is also edible, it contains neither a Mifarek or Borer prohibition. If the pod is inedible then although it does not contain a Mifarek prohibition, nevertheless it contains all the Borer restrictions and thus may only be peeled off right before the meal.[37]

May one cut the pod and remove the beans?[38]

No.

 

May one remove corn from the cob on Shabbos?[39]

To remove the kernels from the root in the cob is disputed amongst the Poskim. Some hold[40] that doing so does not contain the Mifarek prohibition[41] [although one must guard the Borer restrictions in doing so]. Others hold[42] that it does contain the Mifarek restrictions and thus cannot be done at all.

To cut the kernels off the cob without removing the root from the cob: Since one only cuts off the upper part of the kernel, it does not contain the Mifarek prohibition although does contain the Borer restrictions and thus may only be done in close proximity to the meal.

To eat the kernels while on the cob: Is permitted according to all.

 

May one remove dates from its stalk?[43]

Some Poskim[44] rule this is forbidden to be done even in order to eat right away.[45] Other Poskim[46] rule it is permitted.[47]

 

May one remove bananas from the stalk or grapes from their vine?[48]

One may only do so immediately prior to the meal.[49]

May one break open the shells of a nut using a vessel which is specified for that purpose, such as a nutcracker?[50]

Depends on the nut. If it is a type of nut, such as a hazel nut, which upon having its shell cracked will have the nut fall out and thus be completely separated from the shell, then all the separating restrictions apply and one may not use a designated vessel in order to break it. However, nuts which even after breaking still need to be separated from their shell, then one may use even a specified vessel to break it open.

May one use a hammer to break open the nut?[51]

Yes, as a hammer is Muktzah Machamas Issur which may be used for a permitted purpose on Shabbos.

Once the shell has been cracked may one remove it from around the nut or must he remove the nut from out of the shell?[52]

When the nut remains totally or partially in its shell it is permitted to remove its shell with one’s hands and does not contain [a] separating bad from good [prohibition], [despite that by doing so one is removing the bad from the good, being that this is equivalent to peeling a fruit.] Nevertheless, after the fruit has been removed if there remains a piece of the shell amongst the pieces of fruit/nut or amongst whole nuts, then if one removes [that shell] from there he is liable for a sin offering [if done unintentionally] and stoning [if done intentionally] for [transgressing the prohibition of] separating waste from food. Rather one must separate the fruit/nut from amongst the shells and may not touch the shells at all.

 

May one peel off the outer shells of peanuts?[53]

Some[54] have forbidden doing so being that they consider this to be under the prohibition of Mifarek.[55] Many others[56] however have permitted this so long as it is done right before the meal and so is the general custom.[57] In any event those which are stringent like Admur in the Siddur not to eat nuts with shells on Shabbos also avoid eating peanuts that have not been shelled before Shabbos.

May one peel off the outer peel of garlic [the peel which contains within it all the cloves] and take apart the cloves from each other on Shabbos?[58]

Being that there are opinions[59] which hold that removing the outer shell may contain the Mifarek prohibition therefore one is to remove this peel and separate the cloves from before Shabbos. If one did not do so from before Shabbos, then he is to rub off the outer shell using the tips of his fingers which is an irregularity.[60] However Rav Farkash suggests that prior to resorting to this option[61] one should try to remove the clove together with its outer peel and then remove the garlic from both the outer and inner peel without separating between the inner and outer peel.

 

According to Admur in the Siddur may one eat sunflower seeds on Shabbos?[62]

If they are still in their shell certainly one is to avoid eating them on Shabbos for the reasons mentioned in the Siddur.

 

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[1] Admur 319:9; Michaber 319:6

[2] Admur ibid; Michaber ibid

[3] There are two ways of reading these words “Bishinuiy Me’at”. It can either mean as written above “with a slight irregularity” or it can mean “a small amount”, meaning that one may only rub a small amount of stalks. The M”B 319:21 rules [based on Gamara and Olas Shabbos] like the latter, that it means a small amount at a time. Vetzaruch Iyun in Admur.

[4] Admur ibid; Rama ibid

[5] Admur ibid; Rama ibid

[6] Mordechai and Ran

[7] Admur ibid; Rama ibid

[8] This refers to almonds which when small are sweet and when they ripen become bitter. [Likuteiy Sichos 33 page Matos]

[9] The upper green shell usually is removed in the field or by the distributer and is thus usually not seen on the nut by the time it reaches the consumer. However, there are times during the year that fresh original nuts are sold still in their green shell and thus due care must be taken not to remove the upper green shell through rubbing it.

[10] Admur ibid; Rama ibid

[11] Lit. Good

[12] It seems that this is referring to nuts, being that the shell can be cracked, however by pods being that the only option is to rub them, then doing so would be allowed with an irregularity according to the final ruling of Admur, and so is implied also from chapter 321 Halacha 1.

[13] Admur ibid; Olas Shabbos 319:14; M”A 319:8 and 321:30; M”B 319:22; See P”M 320 A”A 1; Rav Akiva Eiger 319:6; Shevet Halevi 1:81 which question why there is no Mifarek prohibition relevant by the outer shell.

[14] In Rama, the end of the chapter was not printed in the Alter Rebbe’s Shulchan Aruch. There he explained that one may not peel onions and garlic to eat later on.

[15] Admur ibid; Taz 319:4; M”A 319:8

[16] Admur ibid; M”A 319:8; Elya Zuta 319:5; M”B 319:21

[17] Admur ibid; Taz 319:4

[18] So is evident from below in which the case of edible pods is mentioned with different laws.

[19] So rules also M”B in Biur Halacha 6 “Bishinui”, as opposed to the ruling of Admur in the SH”A.

[20] This term is used today to refer to chickpeas

[21] Lit. good

[22] Siddur.

However in the Shulchan Aruch 319:9 Admur rules that merely “It is proper to be stringent to not rub them even with an irregularity“, which is with using the tips of one’s fingers, even though that there are opinions which permit doing so in order to eat right away.  However, to rub them without an irregularity is forbidden according to all opinions even in the Shulchan Aruch.

[23] Admur 319:9 and Siddur

[24] Siddur

However according to the Shulchan Aruch 319:9, if the beans have been separated from the pods from before Shabbos then there is no Mifarek prohibition involved, although one must beware of all the separating restrictions explained above

[25] Admur 319:9 Regarding whether or not the restrictions of Borer apply too in this case. Rav Farkash in chapter 13 page 318 [see Biurim 6] sides that it is permitted being that it is simply like removing food from food. So rules also the Ketzos Hashulchan [126 footnote 3] and Peri Megadim.

[26] Siddur

[27] Admur 319:9

[28] Siddur

[29] Siddur

However according to the Shulchan Aruch: It is proper[29] to be stringent to not rub off the shell being that one can anyways break it open and then eat it without needing to separate the shell.

[30] Admur 319:9

[31] Admur 319:9

[32] Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 5 and 8 based on Iglei Tal 2:3 and Chayeh Adam 14; Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 320; See Minchas Yitzchak 3:32 and Shevet Halevi 1:81 that mention such a logic. The Shevet Halevi ibid however negates this differentiation.

[33] Shevet Halevi 1:81 based on P”M 320 A”A 1; Rav Akiva Eiger 319:6; See also Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 8 which leaves this matter in a Tzaruch Iyun.

[34] Admur 319:9 which writes that there is no Mifarek prohibition relevant by the inner shell, hence forcing the conclusion of the Ketzos Hashuclhan ibid, unlike the question of the P”M ibid. So also explained the Shevet Halevi ibid in Admur.

[35] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 316-320

[36] This follows the ruling of the Siddur, however according Admur in the SHU”A [Halacha 9] it is permitted in a case that the legumes have detached from within from their pod.

[37] Based on Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 4

[38] So is implied from Admur 319:9 which forbids peeling the pod and then removing the beans with one’s hands.

[39] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 321-322

[40] Tehila Ledavid 319:9 based on P”M 3109 M”Z 4 and 320 A”A 1; Mahrsham  in Orchos Chaim 319 and Daas Torah

[41] The reason: Being that it is only covered from its inner side as opposed to its outer side, and according to them only a food which is covered from both sides contains the Mifarek prohibition.

[42] Iglei Tal; Shevisas Shabbos [Dash 5] leaves this as a Tzaruch Iyun. The Ketzos Hashulchan [126:5 footnote 11] goes into depth on the sides of the doubt and rules that one is to be stringent out of doubt based on the words of the Shevisas Shabbos.

[43] Ketzos Hashulchan 126:5

[44] Ketzos Hashulchan ibid based on Iglei Tal and Shevisas Hashabbos ibid

[45] This is forbidden due to the Mifarek prohibition, as it is the common way to verse remove the stalk of dates from the tree and then cut the dates off the stalks and send them to storage. This is directly similar to threshing. Others however argue that threshing only applies to fruits which are concealed within their stalks, as are grains, and not by revealed fruits. [see Ketzos Hashulchan ibid footnote 9]

[46] Peri Megadim A”A 320

[47] Others argue that threshing only applies to fruits which are concealed within their stalks, as are grains, and not by revealed fruits. [see Ketzos Hashulchan ibid footnote 9]

[48] Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 10-11; Shabbos Kihalacha Vol. 2 p. 316;

[49] Some Poskim [Iglei Tal unlike Peri Megadim A”A 320] rule that the “Dosh” “Threshing” prohibition applies equally to items which are removed from their stalk even if the fruits are revealed. Meaning that not only by concealed fruits such as legumes in their pods does the prohibition apply, but also by all foods which are attached to a stalk. Nevertheless, even according to them it is only forbidden when done in order to store, or eat later on, as is the form of Melacha of threshing that it is done for storage purposes. If however it is done to eat right away then it is allowed according to all, as this is not like Dash at all. Thus, one may remove bananas from their stalk, and grapes from their vines to eat right away. However, this is only by fruits which it is common to eat the food soon after removing it from its stalk. If however it is common to store the fruits after removing them from their stalk then they have the same law as does removing dates, in which some rule it is forbidden even to do in order to eat right away due to the threshing prohibition. [see Ketzos Hashulchan ibid footnote 9-10]

[50] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2  p. 307

[51] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2  p. 307

[52] Siddur of Admur; M”B 319:24 in name of M”A unlike the implication in the P”M which is stringent

[53] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 313

[54] Sheivet Halevy 1:81; 79-2; 3:42; Chelkas Yaakov 133 writes to be stringent

[55] The reason: As it is similar to the most outer green shell of the almond which is forbidden to remove due to Mifarek. [Shevet Halevi ibid] Now although it is permitted to break open the almond even with the green shell, this is because the green shell does not peel off and rather remains attached to the hard shell. Thus, one has not performed Mifarek to the outer shell, which is to remove it from its area of growth as is done in the field. However in this case it is being removed from its area of growth through breaking it and is hence forbidden due to the Mifarek prohibition.

[56] Maharshag 2:108; Minchas Yitzchak 3:32; Bear Moshe 38

[57] The reason: As peanuts are grown to also be marketed with tehri shells and hence are not relevant to the Izzur of Mifarek, as explained above. [See also Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 5 and 8 based on Iglei Tal 2:3 and Chayeh Adam 14; Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 320; See Minchas Yitzchak ibid and Shevet Halevi 1:81 that mention such a logic. The Shevet Halevi ibid however negates this differentiation, and brings proofs against it; See also Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 8 which leaves this matter in a Tzaruch Iyun.]

[58] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 313-315

[59] Peri Megadim 319 A”A 8

[60] So rules Ketzos Hashulchan 126 footnote 8

[61] This is because based on Admur in the Siddur it seems that he rules like the stringent opinion above that it is forbidden to peel even using an irregularity such as using the tips of one’s fingers.

[62] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 2 p. 313

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