4. Dyeing Foods

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4. Dyeing foods:[1]

One is permitted to place turmeric in food and there is no need to worry [that doing so] is [transgressing the] coloring [prohibition] as there is no coloring [prohibition involved] in [dyeing] food.

Getting pigment on one’s bread:[2] If one dyes his bread with the pigment of fruits, such as strawberries and pomegranates, there is no problem involved being that there is no [prohibition of] coloring by foods.

Filtering an egg yolk from its white in order to color the mustard:[3] However if one placed the mustard into the strainer from before Shabbos [and thus filtered it out from the bran] then it is permitted to place an egg into [the strainer] in order to [have the yolk fall through the strainer and] give color to the mustard that has been filtered through it.

The reason: Now, although the yolk falls out [through the holes of the strainer] together with the mustard while the white which is [all] connected remains above with the waste, [nevertheless] this does not appear like separating food from waste being that both the yolk and the white are foods and he is not filtering the yolk from the white because he desires to eat the yolk and not the white, but rather because the yolk helps give color to the mustard as opposed to the white.

 

Summary – Dyeing Foods:

*This summary is based on various important clarifications that were gleaned from the Q&A below!

Without any intent to dye the food-simply for the sake of the taste:[4] Foods do not contain a dyeing prohibition [when one does not intend to dye the food but simply to give taste]. Thus, one may add a spice to his food even if it will dye or color his food in the process. [This however is regarding foods. Regarding liquids however this matter is disputed in Poskim. Some Poskim[5] rule the dyeing prohibition does not apply to liquids. Other Poskim[6] however rule the dyeing prohibition applies to liquids. Some Poskim[7] rule however that one may add the water to the dyed liquids but not the dyed liquid to the water.[8] Practically, according to the Shulchan Aruch and Alter Rebbe doing so is completely permitted without restriction when doing so to drink that day.[9]]

With intent to to dye and to add taste: Some Poskim[10] rule it is permitted to be done in such a case.[11] Others[12] however rule one may not dye the foods. Practically one may be lenient.[13]

With intent to dye and not to add taste, but with intent to eat the dyed food: Some Poskim[14] rule it is permitted to do so even in such a case.[15] Other Poskim[16] rule it is forbidden to add the dye to it on Shabbos. Practically, some[17] rule one is to be stringent if there is no benefit for the eating of the food, although one may be lenient if there is benefit for the eating of the food.

With intent to dye and not in order to eat food:[18] Dyeing a food for non-eating purposes contains a Dyeing prohibition.

 

Q&A on dyeing liquids

May one dye water or other liquids?[19]

  • Example: May one mix concentrated juice with water? May one enter a tea bag or tea essence into his water?

It is permitted to dye water on Shabbos for purposes of drinking, just as it is permitted to dye other foods on Shabbos.[20] One may thus place red wine into white wine.[21] However some Poskim[22] rule the dyeing prohibition applies to liquids and one is hence not to place a dyeing color into liquids.[23] Some Poskim[24] rule however that one may add the water to the dyed liquids but not the dyed liquid to the water.[25] Practically, according to the Shulchan Aruch and Alter Rebbe doing so is completely permitted without restriction when doing so to drink that day.[26]

Q&A on dyeing for food purposes but to also add color

May one add dye to foods if he intends to both give it taste and to color the food?[27]

  • Example: One desires to add cumin to his soup in order to make it yellow and also in order to give it taste? One desires to mix concentrated juice with water in order to add color and taste?

Some Poskim[28] rule it is permitted to be done in such a case.[29] Others[30] however rule one may not dye the foods. Practically, one may be lenient.[31]

 

Q&A on dyeing for purpose of color but plans to eat the food

May one dye foods that he plans to eat if his entire intent is to color the food?[32]

  • Example 1: One desires to give a child to drink red colored water, and thus desires to add red pigment to the water?
  • Example 2: One desires to add food coloring or dye to a drink or food in order to impress guests.

Some Poskim[33] rule it is permitted to do so even in such a case.[34] Other Poskim[35] rule it is forbidden to add the dye to it on Shabbos.[36] Practically, some[37] rule one is to be stringent in case 2 being there is no benefit for the eating of the food in this case, although one may be lenient in case 1 where there is benefit for the eating of the food.

May one mix red wine with white wine at the night of the Seder?

This matter follows the same dispute as the previous Q&A.[38] Practically, one may do so[39], although it is best to pour in the red wine first and then pour in the white wine.[40]

 

Q&A on dyeing for non-food purposes

May one dye foods for non-eating purposes?[41]

No. Dyeing a food for non-eating purposes contains a Dyeing prohibition.

 

May one on Shabbos place food coloring into foods or liquids that are planned to be sold?[42]

No. Doing so contains the dyeing prohibition.[43]

May one add dye to water that is in a vase?[44]

No.

 

May one dye toilet water using toilet soaps?

It is forbidden to do so if one intends to dye the water in the process.[45]

 

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[1] Admur 320:26; Michaber 320:19; Shibulei Haleket 86 in name of Yireim

Other opinions: Some Poskim rule the prohibition of dyeing applies even to foods. [Tosafus Rid Shabbos 75a [as explained in in Avnei Nezer 173], based on Shabbos ibid that there is a dyeing prohibition involved in slaughtering [However see Ketzos Hashulchan 136 footnote 7]; Chayeh Adam 24:5 and Nishmas Adam 24:3, brought in Biur Halacha 320:19 “Litein Karkum” leaves this matter in question; Ginas Veradim 3:9 regarding liquids; Darkei Moshe 320:2 in name of Avraham Mintz regarding liquids; Avnei Nezer 173 concludes it is proper to be stringent like the Tosafus Rid against the Michaber]

Why is there a dyeing prohibition involved in slaughtering an animal if an animal is food? According to the Michaber and Poskim ibid this is because a) This neck area that is dyed during slaughtering is forbidden to be eaten and one’s intent is to sell the meat and therefore it is forbidden. [Chacham Tzvi 92, brought in Avnei Nezer 173] b) Because one is dyeing the skin of the neck, and this skin is not food. [Or Zarua, brought in Avnei Nezer ibid and Biur Halacha ibid]

[2] Admur 320:27; Michaber 320:20; Shibulei Haleket 86 in name of Yireim

[3] Admur 319:21

[4] Admur 320:26; Michaber 320:19; Shibulei Haleket 86 in name of Yireim

Other opinions: Some Poskim rule the prohibition of dyeing applies even to foods. [Tosafus Rid Shabbos 75a, based on Shabbos ibid that there is a dyeing prohibition involved in slaughtering; Chayeh Adam 24:5 and Nishmas Adam 24:3, brought in Biur Halacha 320:19 “Litein Karkum” leaves this matter in question; Ginas Veradim 3:9 regarding liquids; Darkei Moshe 320:2 in name of Avraham Mintz regarding liquids; Avnei Nezer 173 concludes it is proper to be stringent like the Tosafus Rid against the Michaber]

Why is there a dyeing prohibition involved in slaughtering an animal if an animal is food? According to the Michaber and Poskim ibid this is because a) This neck area that is dyed during slaughtering is forbidden to be eaten and one’s intent is to sell the meat and therefore it is forbidden. [Chacham Tzvi 92, brought in Avnei Nezer 173] b) Because one is dyeing the skin of the neck, and this skin is not food. [Or Zarua, brought in Avnei Nezer ibid and Biur Halacha ibid]

[5] Michaber 320:19 and Admur 320:26 regarding adding Turmeric into a liquid dish; Darkei Moshe 320:2 in name of Yireim; Tal Oros 48; Chacham Tzevi 92; P”M 320 A”A 25 and 321 A”A 24, M”B 320:56; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnolte 16-12; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; SSH”K 11 footnote 158; Yabia Omer 2:20; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24

[6] Avraham of Mintz, brought in Darkei Moshe ibid; Ginas Veradim 3:9 [brought in Rav Poalim 2:3 and Shaareiy Teshuvah 318:4]; Minchas Shabbos 80:152; Chesed Lealafim 320:6; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; Rav Poalim 3:11; Lev Chaim 3:78; Halef Lecha Shlomo 136; Kaf Hachaim 320:113 and 116; Shabbos Kehalacha 20:3

[7] Chesed Lealafim 320:6; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 3; Rav Poalim 2:11; Kaf Hachaim 320:117; Mishneh Berurah in Shaar HaTziyon 318:65; This follows their interpretation of the stringent opinion ibid brought in Ginas Veradim and Darkei Moshe; However see Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnote 16-12 that according to the Poskim ibid it is forbidden even in this fashion.

[8] The reason: As when adding the dye to the water it is evident to all the color change of the water in the glass, when however, adding water to the dye this is not evident at all. [Rav Poalim ibid; See Ketzos Hashulchan ibid who negates this understanding]

[9] Ketzos Hashulchan ibid; Ketzos Hashulchan ibid; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; SSH”K 11 footnote 158; Yabia Omer 2:20; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24; However, for the next day is forbidden according to all as one may not trouble himself on Shabbos for the week.

Ruling of M”B: The M”B 320:56 rules one may pour red wine into white wine. However, in Shaar Hatziyon ibid he writes it is best to pour in the opposite way. See Piskeiy Teshuvos 320 footnote 271!

[10] Peri Megadim 320 A.A. 25 brought in M”B 320:56; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnote 16-11 [however see footnote 15-1]; Chasam Sofer Shabbos 75; Or Letziyon 1:29; Yechaveh Daas 6:23; Tzitz Eliezer 14:47; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; Yabia Omer 2:20; SSH”K 11 footnote 158 in name of Rav SZ”A regarding Petel

[11] The reason: As there is no dyeing prohibition by foods at all, even if one does so for the purpose of the dye. [ibid]

[12] Possible way of learning Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid and ruled in Kitzur SHU”A 80:42 [See Piskeiy Teshuvos 320 footnote 273]; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; Rav Poalim 3:11

[13] Shabbos Kehalacha ibid; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24; As no mention of this is made in Shulchan Aruch when it states that one may add dye to his foods.

[14] Implication of Admur 319:21 “He is not filtering the yolk from the white because he desires to eat the yolk and not the white, but rather because the yolk helps give color to the mustard as opposed to the white.”; P”M 320 A”A 25 [brought in M”B 320:56]; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnote 16-11 [however see footnote 15-1]; Chasam Sofer Shabbos 75; Or Letziyon 1:29; Yechaveh Daas 6:23; Tzitz Eliezer 14:47

[15] The reason: As there is no dyeing prohibition by foods at all, even if one does so for the purpose of the dye. [ibid]

[16] Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid; Kitzur SHU”A 80:42; Kaf Hachaim 320:116; Beir Moseh 8:23-15; Mishnas Yosef 7:77; Bris Olam Tzoveia 12; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; SSH”K 11 footnote 158000

[17] Shabbos Kehalacha ibid; Piskeiy Teshuvos ibid

[18] P”M 320 A”A 25; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; M”B 320:56; Ketzos Hashulchan 146:8; Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid; Beir Moshe 8:23-15; Mishnas Yosef 7:77; Bris Olam Tzoveia 12; Kaf Hachaim 320:116; Many Poskim in Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:25 footnote 279; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; Shabbos Kehalacha vol. 3 20:4 based on Poskim in previous footnote; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:25

Other Opinions: The Chacham Tzevi 92 rules that the dyeing prohibition does not apply to foods or liquids that are fit for consumption even if one is doing so for non-eating purposes.

[19] Shaar HaTziyon 318:65

[20] Michaber 320:19 and Admur 320:26 regarding adding Turmeric into a liquid dish; Darkei Moshe 320:2 in name of Yireim; Tal Oros 48; Chacham Tzevi 92; P”M 320 A”A 25 and 321 A”A 24 M”B 320:56; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnolte 16-12; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; SSH”K 11 footnote 158; Yabia Omer 2:20; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24

[21] Darkei Moshe ibid; P”M 320 A”A 25; M”B ibid; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; SSH”K 11 footnote 158

[22] Avraham of Mintz, brought in Darkei Moshe ibid; Ginas Veradim 3:9 [brought in Shaareiy Teshuvah 318:4 and Rav Poalim 2:3]; Minchas Shabbos 80:152; Chesed Lealafim 320:6; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; Rav Poalim 3:11; Lev Chaim 3:78; Halef Lecha Shlomo 136; Kaf Hachaim 320:113 and 116; Beir Moshe 8:24-17

[23] The reason: As it is Biblically forbidden to create dye on Shabbos, and entering a dyed food into liquid is similar to making a dye. [Rav Poalim ibid; Ben Ish Chaiy ibid]

[24] Chesed Lealafim 320:6; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 3; Rav Poalim 2:3; Kaf Hachaim 320:117; Mishneh Berurah in Shaar HaTziyon 318:65; Beir Moshe ibid; This follows their interpretation of the stringent opinion ibid brought in Ginas Veradim and Darkei Moshe; However, see Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnolte 16-12 that according to the Poskim ibid it is forbidden even in this fashion.

[25] The reason: As when adding the dye to the water it is evident to all the color change of the water in the glass, when however, adding water to the dye this is not evident at all. [Rav Poalim ibid; See Ketzos Hashulchan ibid who negates this understanding]

[26] Ketzos Hashulchan ibid; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; SSH”K 11 footnote 158; Yabia Omer 2:20; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24

However, for the next day is forbidden according to all as one may not trouble himself on Shabbos for the week.

Ruling of M”B: The M”B 320:56 rules one may pour red wine into white wine. However, in Shaar Hatziyon ibid he writes it is best to pour in the opposite way. See Piskeiy Teshuvos 320 footnote 271!

[27] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 3 20:7-9; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24

[28] Peri Megadim 320 A.A. 25 brought in M”B 320:56; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnote 16-11 [however see footnote 15-1]; Chasam Sofer Shabbos 75; Or Letziyon 1:29; Yechaveh Daas 6:23; Tzitz Eliezer 14:47; Sheivet Halevi 9:71; Yabia Omer 2:20; SSH”K 11 footnote 158

[29] The reason: As there is no dyeing prohibition by foods at all, even if one does so for the purpose of the dye. [ibid]

[30] Possible way of learning Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid and ruled in Kitzur SHU”A 80:42 [See Piskeiy teshuvos 320 footnote 273]; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; Rav Poalim 3:11

[31] Shabbos Kehalacha ibid; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24; As no mention of this is made in Shulchan Aruch when it states that one may add dye to his foods.

[32] Shabbos Kehalacha Vol. 3 20:8-9

[33] P”M 320 A”A 25 [brought in M”B 320:56]; Aruch Hashulchan 320:7; Ketzos Hashulchan 146 footnote 16-11 [however see footnote 15-1]; Chasam Sofer Shabbos 75; Or Letziyon 1:29; Yechaveh Daas 6:23; Tzitz Eliezer 14:47

[34] The reason: As there is no dyeing prohibition by foods at all, even if one does so for the purpose of the dye. [ibid]

[35] Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid; Kitzur SHU”A 80:42; Kaf Hachaim 320:116; Beir Moseh 8:23-15; Mishnas Yosef 7:77; Bris Olam Tzoveia 12; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:24; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; SSH”K 11 footnote 158

[36] It is possible that there Poskim prohibit that if the dye does not add taste or benefit to the food then

[37] Shabbos Kehalacha ibid; Piskeiy Teshuvos ibid

[38] Piskeiy Teshuvos 320 footnote 276

[39] Shevet Halevi 10:56

[40] Shabbos Kehalacha 20:10

[41] P”M 320 A”A 25; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; M”B 320:56; Ketzos Hashulchan 146:8; Nishmas Adam brought in M”B ibid; Beir Moshe 8:23-15; Mishnas Yosef 7:77; Bris Olam Tzoveia 12; Kaf Hachaim 320:116; Many Poskim in Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:25 footnote 279; See Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 17 which learns this opinion from Sheilas Yaavetz 1:42; Peri Megadim 318; Shoel Umeishiv 2:7; Shabbos Kehalacha vol. 3 20:4 based on Poskim in next footnote; Piskeiy Teshuvos 320:25

Other Opinions: The Chacham Tzevi 92 rules that the dyeing prohibition does not apply to foods or liquids that are fit for consumption even if one is doing so for non-eating purposes.

[42] Peri Megadim 320 A.A. 25; M”B 320:56; Ketzos Hashulchan 146:8; Shabbos Kehalacha vol. 3 20:6

Other Opinions: According to the Chacham Tzevi ibid this would be permitted.

[43] The reason for this prohibition is due to that the dyeing of food is only permitted when it is done for eating purposes. However, when it is done for non-eating purposes then it is the Melacha of dyeing. [See P”M ibid; Shabbos Kehalacha ibid footnote 13]

[44] Peri Megadim ibid; Ben Ish Chaiy Pekudei 2:3; Shabbos Kehalacha vol. 3 20:6 based on Poskim in previous footnotes.

Other Opinions: The Chacham Tzevi 92 rules that the dyeing prohibition does not apply to foods or liquids that are fit for consumption even if one is doing so for non-eating purposes.

[45] If one has no intent to dye the water at all, then see Piskeiy Teshuvos 321:25 in name of many Poskim; Shabbos Kehalacha; M”B Dirsshu p. 768 in name of SSH”K 24:14 that is assur.

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