Chapter 5: Erev Tisha B’av

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Chapter 5: Erev Tisha B’av

1. Learning Torah on Erev Tisha B’av:[1]

Learning past midday:[2] The custom[3] is to limit one’s Torah learning, beginning from midday of Erev Tisha B’av, to only those subjects that are permitted to be learned on Tisha B’av itself.[4] [Many authorities agree with this custom.[5] Other Poskim[6] however argue against this custom. Accordingly, some Poskim[7] conclude that one who relies on these Poskim, and continues his regular learning sessions, is not to be protested. Practically, however, one should be stringent as writes the Rama, especially being that there are permitted Torah subjects that one can learn.[8]]

Shabbos Erev Tisha B’av: The above dispute regarding learning Torah after midday of Erev Tisha B’av applies likewise to when Shabbos falls on Erev Tisha B’av. Accordingly, some Poskim[9] rule it is forbidden to learn Torah past midday even on Shabbos, with exception to those subjects permitted on Tisha B’av itself. However, other Poskim[10] rule it is permitted to learn all subjects of Torah even past midday on Shabbos. Practically, one is to be stringent in this matter.[11]

Pirkeiy Avos on Shabbos Erev Tisha B’av: When Tisha B’av falls on Sunday, some Poskim[12] rule Pirkeiy Avos is not recited on Shabbos after Mincha. Other Poskim[13] however rule it is to be recited. [Regarding the Chabad custom in this matter, the Rebbe spoke about this issue on numerous occasions, at times saying it is to be said[14] and at others leaving it to the person to decide.[15] Practically, when Shabbos falls on Tisha B’av and is Nidche, the widespread custom has become to not say Pirkeiy Avos.[16] Some[17] conclude Pirkeiy Avos is not to be said even when Tisha B’av falls on Sunday and is not Nidche. In any event, one is to repeat that same chapter the next week, even if he decided to recite it.[18]]

 Summary:

One is to limit his Torah learning starting from midday of Erev Tisha B’av to only those subjects permitted to be studied on Tisha B’av itself. Nevertheless, those who are lenient to continue their regular Torah sessions have upon whom to rely.

Q&A

May one learn Chitas past midday?[19]

Initially, one is to complete his studies of Chitas prior to midday. However, if one was unable to do so he may study the regular Chitas studies until sunset.[20]

 

May one learn Rambam past midday?[21]

One is to complete the Rambam studies before midday. If he did not do so, then it is to be delayed until after Tisha B’av. [One however may study the laws of Aveilus in the Rambam even on Tisha B’av itself. Thus, during those years that the daily lesson for Tisha B’av is the laws of Aveilus there is no limit as to when it must be studied. Furthermore, some[22] are lenient all together, to allow learning all one’s set Shiurim of Torah until sunset, if he was unable to complete it before midday.]

May one say Tehillim after midday?[23]

Yes.

 

May one read Shnayim Mikra after Chatzos of Shabbos Erev Tisha B’av if he has not yet done so?[24]

Yes.

 

May an Avel recite Mishanyos after Mincha Erev Tisha B’av as he does throughout the regular year?

The Avel is to recite the Mishnayos of Moed Katan, saying the last Mishneh of the third chapter.[25] [He is not to conclude with the teaching of Rebbe Chananya, and is to begin straight with Kaddish after concluding the Mishneh.[26]] Some[27] however write that the regular Mishnayos may be recited.

Erev Tisha B’av falls on Shabbos: When Erev Tisha B’av falls on Shabbos, seemingly he is to recite the regular Mishnayos after Mincha.[28] However, some Rabbanim[29] hold that even in such a case he is to recite the Mishnayos of Moed Katan.

2. Taking pleasure walks on Erev Tisha B’av:[30]

One may not take pleasure walks on Erev Tisha B’av. [This applies even on Shabbos Erev Tisha B’av.[31] If Tisha B’av falls on Shabbos and is pushed to Sunday, one is to refrain from walks throughout the entire day, (i.e. starting from Friday night).[32]]

3. Eating a large meal prior to Mincha and the Seudas Hamafsekes:[33]

It is an accustomed Ashkenazi practice to eat a set meal on Erev Tisha B’av, prior to Davening Mincha.[34] After the meal, one Davens Mincha and then eats the Seudas Hamafsekes.[35] [Some Poskim[36] rule this meal is to be eaten prior to midday. However, the widespread custom is not to be particular in this matter.[37] Some are accustomed not to eat two meals, one before Mincha and one afterwards, and rather they eat one meal with many uncooked foods and then at the conclusion of the meal they eat the egg and bread with ash.[38]]

How much is one to eat by the first meal?[39] The custom is to have a larger meal than usual in the first meal eaten [prior to Mincha].[40] Nevertheless, one who is able to withhold himself from increasing in food even during this meal and knows that the fast will not damage him, then if he is stringent to do so he is considered holy and praised.[41] [However, other Poskim[42] validate the increasing of food even in such a case.]

Being careful not to satiate oneself too much by this meal:[43] One must beware not to satiate himself too much during the first meal in order so he retains an appetite to eat the Seudas Hamafsekes.[44]

 Fish by Erev Tishe Beav meal

Question:

May one eat fish by the large meal eaten prior to the Seudas Hamafsekes??

 

Answer:            

Yes it is permitted to eat fish during the accustomed large meal that takes place before Mincha. The restriction against eating fish only applies to the Seudas Hamafsekes meal which is the last meal eaten before Tisha B’av, after midday, and even then its restriction is due to custom and is under debate, although we are stringent.

Sources: See Michaber 552:2 “and fish”; Beis Yosef 522; M”A 552:2; Hagahos Ashri 4:35; Mamar Mordechai 552:2; Machazik Bracha 552:4; Kaf Hachaim 552:17-18; Poskim who permit even by Seudas Hamafsekes: Nachals Tzevi 552, brought and negated in M”A ibid

4. Mincha:

When?[45] After eating the large meal [discussed in the previous Halacha] one is to [recite Birchas Hamazon[46]] and Daven Mincha. The Seudas Hamafsekes is then eaten after Mincha.

Tachanun:[47] Tachanun is omitted during Mincha of Erev Tisha B’av being that Tisha B’av is called a “Moed” [Festival].

Summary:

It is customary to eat a large meal prior to Davening Mincha on Erev Tisha B’av. After the meal, one Davens Mincha and then eats the Seudas Hamafsekes.

 

Q&A

If one is unable to Daven Mincha with a Minyan after his set meal, prior to the Seudas Hamafsekes, what is he to do?

Is it better to Daven Mincha with a Minyan before the meal eaten prior to Seudas Hamafsekes or should one eat the set meal and then Daven Mincha privately prior to the Seudas Hamafsekes?

If one is eating the two meals close together, then he must Daven Mincha between the two meals.[48] Thus, in the above case, it is better to Daven privately between the two meals than to Daven with a Minyan before the first meal.[49] If, however, in any event there will be a large interval[50] between the two meals, then he may Daven Mincha with a Minyan prior to either meal.[51]

5. Laws pertaining to the final meal:

A. What is defined as the Seudas Hamafsekes?[52]

The Seudas Hamafsekes is the last meal eaten before Tisha B’av, after midday, and it is this last meal eaten after midday that contains all the restrictions that apply to the meal due to mourning, as will be explained. All the other meals eaten prior to the last meal do not carry any of these restrictions, even if it is eaten after midday. Likewise, even the last meal itself only carries the restriction when it is eaten after midday. If, however, one eats the last meal before midday it does not carry any of the restrictions. [Although there is no intrinsic to eat the Seudas Hamafsekes, it is nonetheless a Mitzvah to do so[53], and so was the ancient custom from Talmudic times as recorded in the Rishonim and Poskim[54]. Furthermore, since the custom today is to eat a big meal after midday with more than one cooked dish and possibly fish, therefore one must eat one more meal later on in order so has previous meal not be considered the last meal which contained these restrictions which were not followed.[55]]

B. The menu restrictions-Letter of law:

Below are all the menu restrictions applicable towards the meal of Seudas Hamafsekes, according to the letter of the law. However, the custom is to further restrict the menu of this meal, as explained in C. Thus, ideally one is to follow the accustomed menu brought in C, although in a time of need that he is still hungry, he may follow the letter of the law menu brought below.

Not to eat meat, wine or two cooked foods:[56] It is forbidden from the letter of the law to eat meat, drink wine, or partake in two cooked foods during this meal.

Not to eat chicken:[57] It is forbidden to eat even chicken.

Not to eat fish:[58] It is forbidden [due to custom[59]] to eat even fish [due to their inclusion within the prohibition against meat[60]]. [Some Poskim[61] rule it is permitted to eat salted fish, such as herring. Other Poskim[62] however question this allowance and practically the accepted practice is not to eat any fish.]

The definition of a cooked food:[63] All cooked foods are included within this prohibition of eating two cooked foods even if it is possible for the foods to also be eaten raw.

Two cooked foods in one dish:[64] Two foods that have been cooked together in the same pot have the status of two cooked foods [and is thus forbidden to be eaten by the Seudas Hamafsekes]. However, if this combination of foods is the most common recipe for this food throughout the year, then it is considered one food, and it may be eaten. Thus, one may eat a cooked legume that contains onions if this is the common recipe of cooking throughout the year.

Raw fruits and vegetables:[65] One may eat an unlimited amount of raw [not cooked] fruits and vegetables during this meal.

Egg:[66] The custom is to eat a [cold[67]] hardboiled egg during this meal.[68] [This egg counts as the cooked food of the meal, and hence one may not eat any other cooked food.]

Diminish in drinking:[69] One is to diminish the amount he drinks during this meal in comparison to the amount he drinks in a regular meal during the year.

Not to drink beer:[70] One may not drink beer during this meal[71] unless the person feels weak[72] [and is doing so in order to garner strength].

 Q&A

Must one wash on bread by the Erev Tishe Beav meal or/and Seudas Hamafsekes?

The large meal: There is no requirement to wash on bread for the large meal that is customarily eaten prior to Mincha and each person is to eat whatever he sees fit so he be satiated and not be harmed by the fast whether it be bread or another starch.

The Seudas Hamafsekes: Although we do not find any recorded requirement to wash on bread for the Seudas Hamafsekes[73], it is nonetheless proper to do so[74], and so was the ancient custom from Talmudic times as recorded in the Rishonim and Poskim[75], and therefore so should be followed.[76] Either way, whether one eats bread or does not eat bread, it remains forbidden to eat more than one cooked food by this meal [i.e. any cooked food other than the cooked egg].

 

May one drink coffee and tea during the Seudas Hamafsekes?

It is permitted to drink coffee and tea during this meal.[77] However, there are Poskim[78] who limit this allowance to only those who are weak.

 

Is butter and cheese considered a cooked food?

Question:

May one eat bread with butter and cheese during the last meal-Seudas Hamafsekes?

 

Answer:

It is forbidden to eat more than one cooked food by the last meal eaten before Tishe Beav, known as the Seudas Hamafsekes. Butter goes through a cooking process, as well as does the milk used to make the cheese, which enters it into doubt as to its permissibility, as it is customary to eat a hard boiled egg during the Seudas Hamfsekes, and hence one may no longer eat any other cooked food. Practically, the Poskim debate as to whether butter and cheese which is made from cooked milk is defined as a cooked food, and in my opinion one should be stringent and avoid it during the Seudas Hamafsekes, although those who are lenient have upon whom to rely.

Sources: Beir Heiytiv 552:5 and Chayeh Adam 134:6 and Kaf Hachaim 552:29 [cheese and butter is permitted as they are from raw foods-Unclear if this applies even if made from cooked milk]; Misgeres Hashulchan 123:6 that one should eat the bread with butter, although leaves cheese in question being that it is cooked; Ben Ish Chaiy Devarim 19 and Kaf Hachaim 552:13 permits yogurt even though is precooked; Kaf Hachaim 552:10 and M”B 552:11 regarding cooked milk and cheese that is forbidden; Nitei Gavriel 52:12 [permits]; Sefer Hachaim; Or Letziyon 28:2 [forbidden, as todays cheese and butter is cooked]; Toras Meir 106 permits all spreads on breads and that so rules Rav Elyashiv and Rav Karelitz; Tzidkas Efarim p. 101 in length that it is forbidden and that so ruled to him Rav Chaim Kanievsky

 

Should one eat the Seudas Hamfsekes even if I will not be fasting?

Question:

Should I eat the Seudas Hamfsekes even if I will not be fasting?

 

Answer:

Yes, you should nevertheless eat a Seudas Hamafsekes and partake in all its regulations and customs.

Sources: See Shevet Halevi 10:83; Halichos Shlomo 15:2; Halichos Vehanhagos p. 13; Or Letziyon 28 footnote 1; Toras Hayoledes 48 footnote 18; Nitei Gavriel 51 footnote 6

C. The accustomed menu:

Bread, salt, and egg:[79] Those who are able should only eat bread with salt [the cold hardboiled egg[80]] and drink water during this meal. [This is the widespread custom amongst those who eat a set meal before Mincha, as explained in the previous Halacha. However, some are accustomed not to eat two meals, one before Mincha and one afterwards, and rather they eat one meal with many uncooked foods, and then at the conclusion of the meal they eat the egg and bread with ash.[81]]

Dipping bread in ash:[82] Many are stringent to conclude their meal by dipping their bread in ash and then eating it. [Upon eating it one says: “This is the meal of Tisha B’av.”[83]]

Sitting on the floor during the meal:[84] The custom is to sit on the ground while eating the Seudas Hamafsekes meal. [However, based on Kabala, one is never to sit directly on the ground and is rather to have an interval between him and the floor.[85] Clothing that one is wearing is not considered a valid interval for this matter.[86] One should be stringent even regarding a tiled floor.[87]]

Not to eat in the forum of three men:[88] One should be careful not to eat the meal with another two men in order to avoid the obligation of making a Zimun. [Nevertheless, in the event that one ate with two other men, a Zimun is not to be made.[89]]

D. Eating after Bentching:[90]

After one finishes his final meal, and recites Birchas Hamazon, he may continue to eat and drink [those foods permitted during the Seudas Hamafsekes[91]] until sundown/Shekia. However, if one explicitly said that he is accepting the fast after his conclusion of the meal, then he may no longer eat and drink [and all the prohibitions that begin by sundown apply to him from that time, other than the prohibition against wearing leather shoes[92]]. This acceptance is valid even if it was not verbalized but simply stated in one’s mind. [93]

Saying that one is not yet accepting the fast prior to finishing eating:[94] It is proper to stipulate during the Seudas Hamafsekes that even after he finishes eating he does not intend to accept the fast [until sundown[95] and] he may thus continue to eat and drink. [This stipulation is valid whether it is said in the heart, or verbalized.[96]]

If one does not feel like eating anymore:[97] Even if one is satiated and does not feel like eating anymore food, it is not considered an acceptance of the fast until he explicitly decides to begin the fast.

Summary:

The widespread Ashkenazi custom is to eat a large meal on Erev Tisha B’av prior to Mincha and then eat the Seudas Hamafsekes after Mincha. Customarily, the Seudas Hamafsekes consists of merely bread with salt, water, and a cooked egg. One dips the bread [and egg] in ash and states “This is the meal of Tisha B’av”. One is to sit on the floor [with an interval between him and the floor] during this meal and it is not to be eaten with a Zimun. One is to diminish in his normal amount of drinking during the meal.

Q&A

Is one to initially recite Birchas Hamazon before sunset?

One may recite Birchas Hamazon even after sunset.

May one perform Mayim Achronim after sunset?[98]

Yes.[99]

 

Is one to recite Birchas Hamazon with Nachem if he is reciting Birchas Hamazon after nightfall?[100]

No. One only recites Nachem in Birchas Hamazon on Tisha B’av, if he ate on Tisha B’av itself, such as a child, or one who is sick.

  Is one to dip the egg in ash?

The Poskim[101] mention dipping the bread in ash and not the egg. Many however today are accustomed to dip the egg in ash [rather than the bread].[102]

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[1] Rama 553:2

[2] Rama ibid; Darkei Moshe 554; Teshuvos Maharil 44

[3] Letter of law or Custom: From the letter of the law it is permitted to learn all Torah sections until the night of Tisha B’av, as seen from the fact that all five oppressions are permitted until the night of Tisha B’av. Nevertheless, the custom is to limit one’s Torah learning to specific subjects being that in any event there are other subjects available which are permitted to be learned. [Biur Hagr”a 553; Chayeh Adam 134:10; M”B 553:8; Kaf Hachaim 553:16]

[4] The reason: As Torah learning brings one joy. [Biur Hagr”a 553; Chayeh Adam 134:10; M”B 553:8; Kaf Hachaim 553:16] Other Poskim however write the reason is because if one studies Torah after midday of Erev Tisha B’av, he will come to think of this Torah learning on Tisha B’av itself, and be brought to joy. [Chasam Sofer 156; Bigdei Yesha, brought in Kaf Hachaim ibid]

What subjects may one learn? See Halacha 7 For a list of subjects permitted to learn on Tisha B’av

[5] So rule M”A 553:7; Levush 553; Elya Raba 553:4; Mateh Yehuda 553; Kneses Hagedola 554; Degul Merivava 553; Derech Hachaim 1; So is evident from all Poskim who record this ruling even regarding learning Pirkeiy Avos on Shabbos Tisha B’av. [M”B 553:8]

[6] Taz 553:2 in name of Rashal that he learned after Chatzos by all years of Erev Tisha B’av; Mamar Mordechai 553:2; Aruch Hashulchan 553:4

Background:

The Rashal writes that he would continue his regular study sessions past midday and this is how he also ruled for others. The Gra and Chayeh Adam write in their commentary that this practice is an excessive stringency. The Mamar Mordechai also negates this custom claiming it causes Bittul Torah as many people don’t learn the specific sections permitted on Tisha B’av during this time due to lack of interest, and hence they do not learn Torah at all. Thus he too rules to be lenient and so was his custom. [brought in M”B 553:8 and Biur Halacha “Vilichein”] The Taz ibid sates that this custom mentioned by the Rama requires further analysis although he does not argue on this custom regarding learning on Erev Tisha B’av that falls during the week. Practically the Biur Halacha concludes that one who is able to limit his learning to the permissible subjects- Kadosh yomar lo.

[7] M”B 553:8

[8] M”A ibid; Kaf Hachaim 553:18; Luach Kolel Chabad; The Rebbe in numerous Sichos records the prohibition of learning past Chatzos; Mamar Mordechai states that although one may be lenient in order to avoid Bittul torah however one who is able to limit his learning to the permissible subjects- Kadosh yomar lo. [brought in Biur Halacha “Vilichein”]

[9] Rama ibid; Maharil ibid; M”A 553:7; Levush 553; Elya Raba 553:4; Mateh Yehuda 553; Kneses Hagedola 554 regarding Tisha B’av Nidche; Degul Merivava 553; Derech Hachaim 1; See Poskim in Kaf Hachaim 553:18

[10] Taz 553:2; Rashal; Kneses Hagedola 554 regarding if Tisha B’av falls on Sunday [not Nidche]; Birkeiy Yosef 553:3; Machazik Bracha 553; Gra; M”B 553:8; Aruch Hashulchan 553:2;

[11] The Kaf Hachaim ibid concludes that the custom is to be stringent like the M”A ibid

Chabad Custom: See Hiskashrus 940; See Hisvadyus Shabbos Chazon Erev Tisha B’av 1981 that the Rebbe stated to limit the topics of the Farbrengen to those matters permitted on Tisha B’av.

[12] Rama 553:2; Maharil; M”A 553:7 in name of Kneses Hagedola

[13] Taz 553:2; Rashal; Gra; M”B 553:8; Aruch Hashulchan 553:2

[14] Likkutei Sichos 19:43 footnote 53

[15] Hisvadyus Shabbos Chazon Erev Tisha B’av 1981

[16] Toras Menachem 1985 5:2695

[17] Hiskashrus 950

[18] Hisvadyus Shabbos Nachamu 1981

[19] Kaf Hachaim 553:18; Hiskashrus 889

[20] The reason: As even on Tisha B’av itself we allow learning one’s set Torah sessions past midday. Hence, certainly on Erev Tisha B’av that learning is merely a custom which some even allow, one may be lenient past midday.

[21] Based on the lesson schedule of Rambam edited by the Rebbe; Hiskashrus 889

[22] Kaf Hachaim 553:18

[23] Divrei Malkiel 6:20; Nitei Gavriel 50:8

[24] Zechor Leavraham 553:9; Chayeh Adam 136:4; Kaf Hachaim 553:19

[25] See Igros Kodesh 11:306 and Nitei Gavriel 75:9; Likewise, see Yoman of Rav Groner that only on Shabbos was the Rebbe surprised that the regular Mishnayos could not be said, being that we don’t show any public Aveilus; Vetzaruch Iyun, as a) Why is it not permitted to say the regular Mishnayos due to Seder Hayom and b) The above answer of the Rebbe was regarding a Yartzite which is only saying it on Tisha B’av, while a regular Avel has said it throughout the year and is part of his Seder Hayom, and hence perhaps the Rebbe never meant to prohibit him from saying it. Nevertheless, practically, the Rebbe said Moed Katan in 1988 even by Mincha of Shabbos.

[26] See Yoman of Rav Groner

[27] Hiskashrus Tisha B’av footnote 13

[28] Likkutei Sichos 14:185

The reason: As otherwise it is Aveilus Bifarhesya, and so exclaimed the Rebbe to Rav Groner that he is surprised at the ruling of the Rabbanim who ruled to him to say the Mishnayos of Moed Katan. [See Yoman of Rav Groner 1988]

[29] Answer of Beis Din to the Rebbe upon him asking which Mishnayos he is to recite, and so did the Rebbe that year, he recited from Moed Katan

[30] Rama 553:2

[31] Birkei Yosef 553:5; Shaareiy Teshuvah 553:5; Kaf Hachaim 553:20

[32] Birkei Yosef 553:5; Shaareiy Teshuvah 553:5; Kaf Hachaim 553:20

[33] Rama 552:9

The custom of Sefaradim: The ruling here follows the custom of Ashkenazi Jewry. However, Sephardic Jewry is not accustomed to have a large meal prior to Mincha, prior to the final meal [Seudas Hamafsekes].  [See Michaber 552:9]

[34] Rama ibid in name of Maharil

The reason: The reason for eating a meal prior to the Seudas Hamafsekes, is because one’s menu is extremely limited during the Seudas Hamafsekes, and thus in order to prevent the fast from causing one damage [due to hunger] one should have a first meal in which he can properly satiate himself. [See Rama ibid] Alternatively, the reason for this is to commemorate that in the times of the second Temple, Tisha B’av was a festive day in which a festive meal was held. By this we express our belief that once more Tisha B’av will become a day of rejoicing. [M”A 552:11; Elya Raba 552:11]

[35] Rama ibid in name of Maharil

The reason: The reason for specifically Davening Mincha between the two meals is because this creates an interval and prevents the issue of causing a Bracha Sheiyno Tzricha. [Shaar HaTziyon 552:16] The Darkei Moshe records in the name of the Mahril that one goes to the Beis Midrash and Davens Mincha. [M”B 552:21]

[36] M”A 552:10; Darkei Moshe 552:3; Bach; Ateres Zekeinim 552; Kaf Hachaim 552:46

[37] The M”B 551:20-22 does not mention at all the need to eat the meal before midday. It is also omitted from Piskeiy Teshuvos 551:8 and Nitei Gavriel 51:1-2

[38] Piskeiy Teshuvos 552:8

[39] Rama ibid; Darkei Moshe 552:3 [brought in Kaf Hachaim 552:48] “This is the custom of majority of people”

Other opinions: Many Poskim argue and rule that it is forbidden to increase in eating during the first meal to the point one no longer desires to eat the Seudas Hamafsekes and simply eats it because of the custom. [M”A 552:10 in name of Levush; Bach; Shlah; M”A 552:12 in name of Darkei Moshe that one is to only eat one cooked dish even during the first meal; brought in M”B 552:22]

[40] The reason: The reason for eating a larger meal than usual is in order to prevent the fast from causing one damage [due to hunger] as by this fast one is required to stop eating from the night before as is the law by Yom Kippur. [Rama ibid] Alternatively, the reason for this large meal is to commemorate that in the times of the second Temple, T”B was a festive day in which a festive meal was held. By this we express our belief that once more T”B will become a day of rejoicing. [M”A 552:11; Elya Raba 552:11]

[41] Rama ibid “so appears to me”.

[42] See M”A 552:11 regarding the alternative reason for increasing in this meal.

[43] M”B 552:22 in name of Elya Raba; Michaber 552:9 “The Seudas Hamafsekes must be a Seudas Keva” [and not a Seudas Aray]; M”A 552:10 in name of Tur and Ramban “Not like those that their stomach is the stomach of Reshaim as they satiate themselves first and then have a mere snack as Seudas Hamafsekes”; Kaf Hachaim 552:46

[44] The reason: The reason for this is because the final meal has a number of mourning customs and limitations, and if one will not properly eat the final meal due to being overfull, his final meal is considered to have been eaten before mincha, without following the mourning limitations. [M”B 522:20; Poskim ibid]

[45] Rama 552:9

[46] M”B 552:21; See Shaar HaTziyon 552:16

[47] Michaber 552:12; Vetzaruch Iyun why Admur in the Siddur does not list Mincha of Erev Tisha B’av as days that we omit Tachanun. [Siddur with Haaros Raskin p. 176]

[48] Shaar HaTziyon 552:16

The reason: As otherwise the second meal is considered a Bracha Sheiyno Tzricha. [ibid]

[49] Based on Shaar HaTziyon ibid

[50] Such as if he will be Davening Mincha Gedola and then eating the first meal, and then eat the second meal right before sunset then it is not considered a Bracha Sheiyno Tzricha even though he did not Daven Mincha in between the two meals. [Kaf Hachaim 552:47]

[51] Kaf Hachaim 552:47

[52] Michaber 552:9

[53] See Makor Chaim 552:1; Halachos Ketanos 2:135; Beir Heiytiv 552:13; Siddur Yaavetz; Kaf Hachaim 552:36; Betzel Hachochmah 4:55; Nitei Gavriel 51:4 footnote 6

[54] See Michaber 552:6 that those who are able should only eat bread with salt [the cold hardboiled egg ] and drink water during this meal; Rama 552:6 that many are stringent to conclude their meal by dipping their bread in ash and then eating it; Taanis 30 regarding Rav Yehuda Bar Ilaiy that he would eat black bread; Yerushalmi Taanis 4:6 that Rav would eat bread dipped in ash and say that this is the meal of Tishe Beav; Midrash Raba Eicha 3:6; Brought in: Ramban in Toras Hadam p. 248; Rokeiah 310; Ravayah 3:888; Or Zarua 2:515; Sefer Hamanhig Hilhos Tishe Beav 24; Shibulei Haleket 265; Orchos Chaim Hilchos Tishe Beav 8; Hagahos Maimanis Taanis 5 Pei; Beis Yosef 552

[55] See Or Letziyon 3 p. 244 in gloss that it is not only proper to do so but is an actual requirement; Betzel Hachochmah 4:55; Nitei Gavriel 51:8

[56] Michaber 552:1; Mishneh Taanis 26b

[57] Michaber 552:2

[58] Michaber 552:2; Michaber 552:2 “and fish”; Beis Yosef 522; M”A 552:2; Hagahos Ashri 4:35; Mamar Mordechai 552:2; Machazik Bracha 552:4; Kaf Hachaim 552:17-18

Other opinions regaridng fish: Some Poskim rule that it is permitted to eat fish and the word fish a misprint in the above sources. [Nachals Tzevi 552, brought and negated in M”A ibid; Kneses Hageola 552:2 regarding custom of Kushta; ]

[59] Machazik Bracha ibid; Kaf Hachaim ibid

[60] M”A 552:2

[61] Beis David O.C. 327; Shuclahn Gavoa 552:5; Erech Hashulchan 552:2; Implication of Levush 552; Elya Raba 552; Moed Lekol Chaiy 10:30; Rosh Taanis 4:34; Tur 552; Aruch Hashulchan 552:7; Nitei Gavriel 52:8 See Kaf Hachaim 552:18

[62] See Kaf Hachaim 552:18

[63] Michaber 552:3

[64] Michaber 552:3; M”A 552:4

[65] Michaber 552:4

[66] Rama 552:6

[67] M”A 552:6

[68] The reason: As hardboiled eggs is the food of a mourner [Rama ibid]

[69] Rama 552:1

[70] M”A 552:1

[71] M”A ibid in name of Mahril; Aguda; Rashal; Hagahos Maimanis

[72] M”A ibid in name of Mateh Moshe

[73] See Nitei Gavriel 51 footnote 29 that in Vizhnitz their custom is to eat Mezonos and not hamotzi for this meal. To note that in truth there is no actual requirement at all to eat a last meal, and hence certainly there is no requirement to eat bread. [See Makor Chaim 552:1; Halachos Ketanos 2:135; Beir Heiytiv 552:13; Siddur Yaavetz; Kaf Hachaim 552:36; Nitei Gavriel 51:4 footnote 6] Nonetheless, since the custom is to eat a big meal after midday with more than one cooked dish and possibly fish, therefore one must eat one more meal later on in order so has previous meal not be considered the last meal which contained these restrictions which were not followed.

[74] Betzel Hachochmah 4:55; Nitei Gavriel 51:8; See Or Letziyon 3 p. 244 in gloss that it is not only proper to do so but is an actual requirement

The reason: Aside from the fact that this is the old age tradition, it is proper to do so in order to make this meal be truly considered the Seudas Hamfsekes meal which contains the restrictions of eating more than one cooked food. If this meal were not to be defined as a true meal then these restrictions would have applied to the previous meal eaten after midday, in which many partake in more than one cooked food. [Betzel Hachochma ibid]

[75] See Michaber 552:6 that those who are able should only eat bread with salt [the cold hardboiled egg ] and drink water during this meal; Rama 552:6 that many are stringent to conclude their meal by dipping their bread in ash and then eating it; Taanis 30 regarding Rav Yehuda Bar Ilaiy that he would eat black bread; Yerushalmi Taanis 4:6 that Rav would eat bread dipped in ash and say that this is the meal of Tishe Beav; Midrash Raba Eicha 3:6; Brought in: Ramban in Toras Hadam p. 248; Rokeiah 310; Ravayah 3:888; Or Zarua 2:515; Sefer Hamanhig Hilhos Tishe Beav 24; Shibulei Haleket 265; Orchos Chaim Hilchos Tishe Beav 8; Hagahos Maimanis Taanis 5 Pei; Beis Yosef 552

[76] Betzel Hachochmah 4:55; Nitei Gavriel 52:4

[77] Shaareiy Teshuvah 552:2 in name of Machazik Bracha; Aruch Hashulchan 552:9; Shearim Hametzuyanim Behalacha 123:3; Piskeiy Teshuvos 552:5

The reason: As drinks are not included within the two cooked foods. [Machazik Bracha ibid] Alternatively, it is because it is not considered a cooked dish, being that it is not cooked in a Keli Rishon but rather through Iruiy Keli Rishon. [Shearim ibid based on Ashel Avraham Butchach ibid]

[78] Zera Emes brought in Machazik Bracha ibid; Shaareiy Teshuvah ibid

[79] Michaber 552:6; See 552:5-6; It appears that one who will not be satiated with only eating the above, may eat in accordance to the Halachic guidelines mentioned above

[80] Rama ibid

[81] Piskeiy Teshuvos 552:8

[82] Rama 552:6; Kitzur SHU”A 123:3; Nitei Gavriel 51:9

[83] M”B 552:16

[84] Michaber 552:7

[85] Maharash Shaar Aryeh; Birkeiy Yosef 552:8; Shaareiy Teshuvah 552:3 in name of Birkeiy Yosef ibid; Kaf Hachaim 552:39

Other opinions: From the Maharil brought in Beir Heiytiv 559:3 it is implied he held that one may sit directly on the ground. [Shaareiy Teshuvah ibid] Practically, however, one is to be stringent in this matter. [Shaareiy Teshuvah ibid; see P”M 559 A”A for how he explains the Maharil; See also next footnotes from Kaf Hachaim who differentiates between a tiled and earth floor]

[86] Shaareiy Teshuvah 552:3 in name of Birkeiy Yosef

[87] Kaf Hachaim ibid suggests that perhaps the above stringency of Kabala is only by an earth floor and thus there is no contradiction between the Maharil and the Maharash however he concludes “When possible one is to be stringent even regarding a tiled floor”.

[88] Michaber 552:8

[89] M”B 552:19

[90] Michaber 553:1; Admur 608:7

[91] So it seems, that even after one closes his Seudas Hamafsekes he still remains limited in what he can eat.

[92] M”B 553:2; Admur ibid regarding Erev Yom Kippur however there he differentiates between accepting the day of Yom Kippur in which case the above law applies, and when he simply accepts to no longer eat.

[93] M”A 553:2 in name of Bach; Gr”a; M”B 553:2; Admur 608:7 regarding the Seudas Hamafsekes on Erev Yom Kippur however there he differentiates between accepting the day of Yom Kippur in which case even acceptance of the heart is valid, and when he simply accepts to no longer eat in which case it is only valid if verbalized.

Other opinions: Some Poskim rule the acceptance is only valid if one verbalized it with his mouth, as words of the heart have no validity. [Rama 553:1]

[94] Admur 608:7; M”A 553:2; M”B 553:2

[95] M”B ibid

[96] M”B ibid

[97] M”B ibid; see Admur ibid

[98] Taharas Hashulchan 557; Nitei Gavriel 66:10

[99] The reason: As this washing is not a washing of pleasure.

[100] Shaareiy Teshuvah 552:13; Nitei Gavriel 51:21

[101] Rama 552:6; Kitzur SHU”A 123:3

[102] Moed Lekol Chaiy 10:29; Nitei Gavriel 51 footnote 21; Hiskashrus; See Ashel Avraham Butchach 552

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