3. Motzei Shabbos of Shabbos Chazon

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3. Motzei Shabbos

A. Havdalah:[1]

When saying Havdala during the nine days [Motzei Shabbos Chazon] one is to give the wine to drink to a child [whether male or female[2], although some rule only male[3]] who has reached the age of Chinuch [of blessings[4] although some say also Chinuch of Havdala[5]] but has not yet reached the age of Chinuch for mourning.[6] If such a child is not, he may drink the [entire[7]] Havdala wine himself as usual.[8]

B. May one continue wearing Shabbos clothing on Motzei Shabbos Chazon?

As explained above, it is forbidden to wear Shabbos clothing during the nine days [with exception to Shabbos]. Accordingly, some Poskim[9] rule that one is to remove his Shabbos clothing immediately after the Bris, and the same would apply to the conclusion of Shabbos that the clothing should be removed [after reciting Baruch Hamavdil], prior to Maariv. However, other Poskim[10] negate the above and rule that one may remain wearing his Shabbos clothing even after Havdalah on Motzei Shabbos.[11] Practically, the widespread custom of all Jewry is to continue wearing the Shabbos clothing on Motzei Shabbos even after Maariv and Havdalah.[12] Although when Tisha Beav falls on Motzei Shabbos, different customs exist, as explained in Chapter 8 Halacha 10!

C. May one eat leftover meat from Shabbos?

Some Poskim[13] rule it is permitted to eat leftover meat from Shabbos during the weekday. This especially applies during Melaveh Malka.[14] Other Poskim[15] rule it is forbidden, and so is the final ruling.

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[1] Rama 551:10

Other Opinions: Some Poskim rule one is to drink the wine himself by Havdala and is not required to give it to a child. [Michaber 551:10] This is the Sefaradi custom. [Kaf Hachaim 551:152] And so is followed even by some Ashkenazim. [Leket Yosher p. 210 that so did Terumos Hadeshen; Siddur Yaavetz; Darkei Chaim Veshalom 668] Some Poskim rule one is not to say Havdala over wine but rather over beer although some are accustomed to drink wine. [Aruch Hashulchan 551:26] See Hiskashrus on the nine days for a story recorded of the Rebbe that he told the person saying Havdala to give the wine to a child who was 11 years old.

[2] Based on 190:4

[3] Based on 295:4 that only one who fulfills their Havdala obligation may drink the wine, and women and girls are disputed in whether they are obligated in Havdala.

[4] Based on 190:4

[5] Kitzur Halachos 295 footnote 5 based on 295:4 that only one who fulfills their Havdala obligation may drink the wine. Vetzaruch Iyun Gadol on their ruling.

[6] M”A 551:31; Ashel Avraham Butchach 551; This means the child is not yet old enough to understand the mourning period.

Other opinions: Some write the custom is to give it to any child below Bar Mitzvah. [Orchos Rabbeinu; Piskeiy Teshuvos 551:35]

[7] Even if it is more than a Revius. [Piskeiy Teshuvos 551:35]

[8] Rama ibid

[9] Maharil, brought in M”A 559:10 “After the Mila they remove the clothing”; Piskeiy Teshuvos 553:1; Nitei Gavriel 94:5

[10] Ashel Avraham Butchach Mahadurah Tinyana 551

[11] The reason: As the accustomed prohibition of wearing Shabbos clothing is only the initial wearing, while if he already wore it under allowance, such as on Shabbos or for a Mila, then there is no prohibition to continue wearing it. [Ashel Avraham ibid]

[12] May one even initially put on the Shabbos clothing after Tzeis if he was not wearing it beforehand? If one removed his Shabbos clothing, such as he removed his Kapata, and it is now after Tzeis, it is questionable as to whether he may even initially put on his Shabbos clothing for Maariv and Eicha, as the entire Heter of the Ashel Avraham ibid was based on the fact one remains in his Shabbos clothing into Shabbos, however to initially put on, who says is allowed? Accordingly, ideally one is to wear the clothing before Tzeis. Nevertheless, even if one took it off and is now going to Shul for Maariv, there is room to learn that he may wear it. This is similar to the Heter written in Shulchan Aruch for a Baal Simcha to wear [put on] Shabbos clothing on Tisha B’av itself [See Rama 559:8; Bigdei Yesha, brought in Kaf Hachaim 559:65], and the reason is because it is only a Minhag not to wear Shabbos clothing on Tisha B’av and not forbidden for the letter of the law. This is why we wear Shabbos clothing on Shabbos even though the same Rama writes its forbidden. The same way the custom allows wearing it on Shabbos Lekavod Shabbos, it allows wearing it even initially on Motzei Shabbos Lekavod Motzei Shabbos. Vetzaruch Iyun!

[13] Kol Eliyahu 45; Machazik Bracha 551 KU”A 1; Birkeiy Yosef 551:6, brought in Shaareiy Teshuvah 551:11, Pischeiy Teshuvah 341:12; Mizbeiach Adama; See Bnei Yissachar Tammuz 1:10

[14] Sefer Hachaim Bayad 125:66; Moed Lekol Chaiy 10:20; Orchos Yosher 14; Yifei Laleiv 2:6; See Poskim in Kaf Hachaim 551:144

[15] Nechpah Bakesef 3; Shemen Hamaor; Kerem Shlomo; Shaareiy Teshuvah ibid; Pischeiy Teshuvah 341:12 in accordance to Noda Beyehuda Tinyana Y.D. 4; Kaf Hachaim 551:143; See M”A 551:26 that it is even forbidden to eat meat after nightfall of Shalosh Seudos if the congregation Davened Maariv and hence certainly it would be forbidden to eat leftovers;

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